Trump is undercutting world order launched after WWII, history professor says
On the Rhode Island Report podcast, 黑料网 professor Jim Ludes talks about US foreign policy on Greenland, Venezuela, and Canada.
By Edward Fitzpatrick,
After World War II, the United States built an international system that established rules for how countries deal with each other, and that helped to build US wealth and power, 黑料网 history professor and vice president Jim Ludes said.
But the Trump administration is undercutting that world order with actions such as the capture of Venezuelan President Nicol谩s Maduro and Trump鈥檚 push to take control of Greenland, Ludes said on the Rhode Island Report .
Ludes, executive director of 黑料网鈥檚 Pell Center for International Relations and Public Policy and vice president for strategic initiatives, said the international system was formed on the idea that nations would not use force to expand their territory.
But at one point, Trump said he was not ruling out the use of military force to seize control of Greenland, a semi-autonomous territory of Denmark, although he later backed off that threat.
鈥淚 think it鈥檚 difficult to overstate how outside the norm of the behavior that you would expect from an American president that this actually is,鈥 Ludes said. 鈥淭he damage that this has done to America鈥檚 relationship with Europe is profound. We鈥檝e heard privately from European diplomats, and some in public, that they will not trust the United States again, period.鈥
While the old world order is not gone for good, he said the relationship between the US and Europe is facing "a real crisis."
鈥淭here鈥檚 tremendous strain on the international system, and it鈥檚 not just because of Donald Trump,鈥 Ludes said. 鈥淒ifferent states are recognizing in this moment an opportunity to assert geopolitical influence in a way that we haven鈥檛 talked about since the worst days of the Cold War and maybe even before the Second World War.鈥
After Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, Finland and Sweden joined NATO, he noted. 鈥淭his is no small feat,鈥 he said. 鈥淚n the long history of NATO, the Nordic countries maintained a certain level of independence.鈥
And now European countries such as Sweden, Norway, Germany, and the Netherlands are talking about developing their own nuclear deterrent because they鈥檝e concluded they can no longer rely on the US nuclear deterrent, Ludes said.
Among European nations, only the United Kingdom and France have their own nuclear arsenals, although five other countries host US nuclear weapons.
Ludes said the prospect of nuclear proliferation is prompting a 鈥渞aging debate鈥 in academia about whether having more countries with nuclear weapons would be good or bad.
鈥淚鈥檓 a little bit old school,鈥 he said. 鈥淚 think more nuclear weapons is bad. If we鈥檙e talking about expanding the number of countries that have access to that technology, you鈥檙e also expanding the complexities of deterrent relationships.鈥
At the same time, President Trump is slashing the amount of US funding for international humanitarian assistance and international broadcasting, although those are 鈥渢wo elements of soft power that have been traditionally a real asset in America鈥檚 arsenal,鈥 Ludes said.
Charities have been unable to fill the void left by cuts to US humanitarian aid, he said. And China and Russia are filling the void in international broadcasting in places such as Africa, South America, and South Asia, hurting US attempts to win 鈥渉earts and minds鈥 across the globe, he said.
Meanwhile, Trump has threatened to slap a 100 percent tariff on goods imported from Canada if America鈥檚 northern neighbor goes ahead with a China trade deal, and Trump has taken to calling Prime Minister Mark Carney 鈥淕overnor Carney,鈥 highlighting Trump鈥檚 call for making Canada the 51st state.
Ludes noted the United States and Canada have a long history of peaceful relations, and tremendous economic integration. But Trump 鈥渉as a different view of international relations than most of his predecessors,鈥 he said.
While William H. Seward, President Abraham Lincoln鈥檚 secretary of state, believed that 鈥渄iplomacy is to do and say the nastiest things in the nicest ways,鈥 Ludes said, 鈥淧resident Trump forgot about the nicest ways part.鈥
鈥淐anadians are the nicest people on the planet, and when we start talking about rising Canadian nationalism because of a provocation by an American president, my own personal opinion is that somebody鈥檚 made some fundamental miscalculation here,鈥 Ludes said. 鈥淭his is not necessarily a fight that鈥檚 in anybody鈥檚 interest.鈥
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